your right ...thats where the magic is in the way they were set up. I own a Axe Fx and i'm not one that reads anything, so i learn as I go. Not a good situation when it comes to these modelers. The Axe is much more in debt as instead of say 8 parameters for say an amp model, the axe has up to say 40 different adjustments. Combine that with shunts, spaces between boxes in your chain, and its real easy to see why it can be very intimidating, with an Axe FX especially. But thats why i say the magic is in the setup. I have an Eric Johnson patch on my Axe Fx that off the top of my head, has 2 reverbs - 3 Delays -Compressor - 2 different amps and cabs and chorus if i remember right. The delays are all set up with different times. One might be 601 ms - next 255 ms etc....Anyway, the patch rocks. You could solo all day on that one patch.