I don't think the ultra is a piece of shit at all..I was looking for a way to get one when the Axe 2 deal literally fell into my lap..

I am merely saying that the Ultra is an entire generation (and more, now, especially with FW10 comping out) ahead of the Ultra, and that it is not a fair comparison between the 2. The Ultra is still in 2nd place as far as I am concerned, but if I can get a Kemper, that might change! smile