Hey Jason, I briefly tried it. I couldnt figure out how it worked? Probably my dumb computer skills at fault? I tried to drag and drop the patch into the 11hack but that didnt work. How do you do it? Also I am primarily trying to use my 11r as a live rig and it is easier for me to use the edit window in PT to do my tweaking. But I think getting away from PT all together is starting make more sense! One of the guys posted recently he wanted to go to Winter NAMM just to kick Avid in the balls!! Im still laughing about that!