Avid announced a new version of the plugin - Eleven MkII

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=374266

https://www.avid.com/US/products/eleven



Is it me, or is this just now making the plugin version the same as the Eleven Rack + Expansion?

Oh, wait, "route to multiple cabs!"

No, not just you. Basically the ERXP has been included, but with a bonus.



Yup, this is the bonus. Here's hoping that this functionality will make it to the 11R as an upgrade for live use as well.

I often put Eleven (or SansAmp or GtrRig) on the dry track to get multiple amps and or cabs, but this will greatly improve things for me.

If you already own Eleven/Eleven LE there is a special price for upgrades until the end of the year. Follow the link provided by TLTD.

I have already upgraded one of my Eleven/Eleven LE plugins but haven't had time to really get too deep into Eleven MkII yet.

I still have a couple of Eleven/Eleven LE licenses that I may or may not upgrade yet.

Well.. if its just everything plus the expansion pack.. I've got that and don't really NEED the "bonus".

I never really looked at the eleven plug-in all that much back when I had access to it before, but I never knew it didn't have the expansion pack amps. That's how often I opened it.

I've thought even earlier this year that Avid is dumping or phasing out 11R units as well as mBox Pro (gen 3) units. All of a sudden, Audio Deluxe had a jillion 11R units they were welling for $299 on eBay? Doesn't sound like a normal chain to me unless they were able to make a killing by splitting out licenses. Likewise, the mBox has been tough to come by for the longest time. I got mine - the smaller one - for about $250 this time last year. (much better way to track acoustic guitar...)

Anyhow, point is, is that it looked like a classic dump the boat before the replacement product was ready to ship scenario.

Anything to make a buck! Avid's missing the boat. PT may well be the industry standard for recording but when they dropped the 11R, I, like a lot of people, think Avid made a huge mistake. If Avid had maintained it, improved it (works well against the competition as is), and brought out a newer, more capable, 11R line, just think of what the competition would have done. Selling PT/11R as a subscription may not bode well in the long run for Avid (I certainly do not plan to upgrade to PT12+). I just seems to me that Avid is doing the "get rich quick" scheme and putting out improvements as they see a chance to control something.

I think the software upgrade indicates the end of the idea that more people will buy the hardware if it has more to offer, so the Orange Rack is definitely either over with save the small chance that they would reflash the same hardware with the multicabinet feature. They would (hate myself for saying) benefit more from just rolling out improved hardware instead, if it were to run better effects, multiple amps/cabinets, allow external cabinet IRs,etc.

Yet I wonder also if "with all those Eleven Racks out there" if an expansion/upgrade, if possible, would be better because quite frankly there's not much reason reason to stick with Avid hardware to get the features every other guitar FX processing unit has these days. $100 x 1000s of users seems like a nice chunk of change.

An iOS/iPad Eleven App would be cool to have though and that could bring this to quite an expansive audience.

Here's the deal if they would just put out a firmware update that only added the ability to add third party IR cabs to the 11 rack... I mean we all paid 200 bucks for an EPSI! that should tell them something and that one improvement right there puts the 11 rack in a whole Nother ball park...

Most of you know that I purchased the line 6 helix I am very pleased with it have not used my 11 rack since I got it I will probably will not get rid of the 11 rack since it is still a good interface to ProTools but so is the helix who knows what might happen I still have my EPSI as well. And I use third-party IR's with the helix as well it is nice that you can put 128 in it and use whichever ones that you please in a preset.
I do kind of miss using my 11 rack but I do like the way the helix is all built into a foot controller makes things a lot easier...
I guess in other words what I am saying is I would've gladly paid for a second expansion pack for a few more amps and that ability to load third-party IR's

HOW ProTools became the industry standard when every single time I've EVER encountered Avid employees.. its always.. ALWAYS goes as follows.. staff/team members equally if not MORE frustrated than consumers at letting things like 11R die on the vine.. and the constant thinning of people and resources.. and management's 1.) complete lack of caring about their product.. 2.) actually caring about the concerns of consumer who buy.. use and support the products.. its a Google style take it or leave mentality where they're simply always right because they simply are who they are.. 3.) incompetence.. look at the history or the CEOs, etc.. read glass ceiling reviews.. nobody out side of a management level cushy severance deal has any confidence or anything really nice to say about being there.. every time I've spoken to any of there staff at trade shows they ALL sound so beat down.. frustrated and or as confused as a termite trapped in a yo yo.