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#44522 - 09/09/15 06:11 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: B32]
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so you are going guitar>11r>di signal>reaper track>le pou vst>back into 11r to reamp, and in this case you are putting cab 1st in the chain if i get it right
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#44523 - 09/09/15 06:15 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: Christophersad]
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Duh, I meant re-amp out L and/or Right, sorry about that. I am still figuring out all combo's that work in Reaper. All your doing is changing the rig input to re-amp and everything else is pretty much the same.

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#44524 - 09/09/15 06:35 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: B32]
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Here is a pic of the routing in Reaper.


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#44525 - 09/09/15 06:37 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: B32]
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You're probably just reamping through 11r your dry signal processed through VSTs. This means that you're putting the cab before the amp, as Christopher said.
EDIT: Saw the screenshot. Yes, you're putting the cab before the amp. smile
This is the standard reamping configuration. smile
The quest isn't over! laugh


Edited by Ichil (09/09/15 06:40 PM)

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#44526 - 09/09/15 07:21 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: Ichil]
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Ah shit, I guess you guys are right. I was thinking it didn't sound right after awhile, the excitement must have had me hearing things I wanted to hear, lol. I'm no Reaper expert, but man, not hearing the doubling and the new version of Reaper...., had me thinking this was it. frown

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#44527 - 09/09/15 07:29 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: B32]
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Anyone have anything in the works for fixing this? I mean, wouldn't all it take, is a new driver, to add the asio directing monitoring feature, needed to shut off the main signal??? I wish someone would hack this thing already, lol. Reaper won't add Asio Direct monitoring, for some reason. I don't think it would matter if they did anyway. Why does it work in Pro Tools? I hate Pro Tools, arghhh.

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#44528 - 09/09/15 09:10 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: B32]
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Maybe you don't have the solution for cabinet loading, but you've stumbled upon a way to do some signal boosting/shaping and that's still pretty cool. I sometimes play around with the DI a bit during reamps using some EQ and Tubedriver or some plugin that livens up the signal more/makes it more "active" than your basic guitar in dry signal. I've never been able to get it "on the way in" like that to see how it actually feels though, but I've made impulses with it after the cabinet. Not quite the same.

You also have perhaps a real time saver, an opportunity to set a pre-eq that works across the board for presets made for other guitars or something.

But really all we want is to switch cabs, I feel your pain. But I finally broke down and got the EPSi IR loader. For the same price, I probably could have gotten another sound card so it would handle the input monitoring, but who knows what kind of issues would happen with latency and such with that configuration. The EPSi is pretty amazing, I've made some 5 second cabinet IRs with reverb tails and stuff that would bog down my recording software for sure, and there's no latency. That's well worth the $200.
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#44529 - 09/09/15 09:23 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: TLTD]
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Also I still think on this whole thing, if it can work in Pro Tools, there's a way to run some code that works for any other DAW. Like when I had Echo Audio's Mia sound card, it echo'd the input by default, and I had to go into the settings and shut that off so I could finally use Peavey ReValver without always hearing that dry signal.

I swear that they knew this and made it so you have to use Pro Tools to get these features. That's how they getcha, as I always say with these things.

Once somebody hacks into this, you also have that whole ability to use almost any amp sim that comes out in the future too. I think though that there's still some latency in all this that can only be avoided by using the EPSi in the FX Loop (and even that adds a tiny bit of latency due the the FX Loop adding 2 or 3 milliseconds, but isn't noticeable as the input monitoring latency).

All said, I am EXTREMELY happy that I can reamp in Cakewalk quite easily and switch cabs on the fly with the Logidy EPSi and tweak presets with the official standalone Eleven Rack editor. Real time saver. And there's little need for post processing these days because I'm getting exactly what I always wanted.
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#44530 - 09/09/15 09:27 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: TLTD]
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I guess there is a bright side, as far as, the boost factor goes. Thanks for making me feel better. I have ran the 11r through 2 different sound cards and it just kills it somehow. I have tried spdif, aes, etc.. good quality ones too, and it kills that," alive", feel of the eleven rack. It does sound good in Pro-Tools, but that's it. I guess I will go for an epsi maybe, at least with the epsi, there is no limit to length of the ir, correct? I just can't justify spending 2k on a axe for home modeling, I would rather buy a Soldano, or a Bogner.

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#44531 - 09/09/15 09:29 PM Re: FINALLY A Solotion for Impulse Responses [Re: B32]
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Originally Posted By: B32
I guess there is a bright side, as far as, the boost factor goes. Thanks for making me feel better. I have ran the 11r through 2 different sound cards and it just kills it somehow. I have tried spdif, aes, etc.. good quality ones too, and it kills that," alive", feel of the eleven rack. It does sound good in Pro-Tools, but that's it. I guess I will go for an epsi maybe, at least with the epsi, there is no limit to length of the ir, correct? I just can't justify spending 2k on a axe for home modeling, I would rather buy a Soldano, or a Bogner.


I'm not sure what the limits are, but I made an 8 second one I think. There's not much need for anything longer than that I wouldn't think. I made one with a delay too, I didn't even know that could actually work, so unlocking some new dimensions to play around with higher quality effects.
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