if you have the cash....get the amplifire. loads IR's, great amp models....plus they keep adding new amp models for free.

put the amplifire in the 11R effects loop and never look back.

Sounds like a plan. A much cheaper plan than Axe FX2 at that.

there are rumors that a tone match eq will be added in a future update. that would be the bomb! IR's will no longer matter.

really bad demo, but it's something to start with. my playing is pretty rusty at this point. will make a better video soon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4bVWbH6jjU

I think your so good at dialing in tones that you could probably do it with a wash tub broom stick and a string... LOL

sounds great BTW!!!

The Scorpions and Van Halen one are SPOT ON. Dio one sounds great too. Def Leppard, holy wow you're getting some authentic sounds immediately identifiable. Dream Theater one sounds great. These are your best sounds ever, man. I take it that you had to do these without any "premium" IRs either, right? So big thumbs up on the Amplifire making it's way up to the big boys' territory. This is very gig ready especially for cover bands. I don't remember hearing so many sounds from Line 6, Boss, Eleven Rack, Axe FX, Kemper that made me think "that sounds EXACTLY" like the bands.

Those were all very good. I thought Ozzy/Rhoads and Def Leppard were especially spot on. Tough considering how much layering was done on the original recordings.

I'm not in the market for another amp modeler - 11R still getting it done for me.

That being said, you've mentioned there is a Dumble amp in the Amplifire. I've seen those on eBay for $50,000 to $85,000. Here's one that sold for $55,000 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/271149509473

I love the sound Larry Carlton gets out of his Dumble and would consider a vanity purchase of another modeler if it got close to the sound.

So if you think of it, next time you put together a video like this, could you do a snippet of the Dumble? I would suggest the Larry Carlton track Emotions Wound Us So.

It's just a very clean sound, but when he picks up (2:40) the amp is very responsive. It's easy to play, so just for your consideration for your next vid, I'd like to hear what the Amplifire can do with a short phrase of this, similar to what you did with the Steve Vai excerpt:

Oldish thread, but I'm going to kick it back up now.

So, I got an Axe-FX II XL last night and.... maybe I'm batsh*t crazy, but my immediate impression is I like the Eleven Rack better?!?!

Of course, this started off with my surprise at how incredibly immature the software suite is... it feels like its still in beta after all these years, and even though Eleven Rack Editor isn't exactly the sleekest newest thing around, its leaps more consistent and better flow.

But of course what I really care about is the sound.

To A/B test what I did was I ran my guitar in the Axe-FX and set up a parallel row in the Axe-FX to spit out a signal out the FX send into the Eleven Rack at unity gain, then had the Eleven Rack running back into the Axe-FX return. Normally I run Ownhammer IR's in my DAW, but in this case I had the Axe-FX handling the cabinet IR for both modelers. I used a mixer block in the Axe-FX to flip between the modelers.

Anyways, I don't really need the huge variety of modern amps since I mostly like classic amp vibes anyway, so the Axe-FX library is not a big benefit there.

In terms of trying similar tones between the two, I consistently found that the Eleven Rack seemed to have a more aggressive attack. I found this to be the case with the JCM800 and with the Bogner Red channel. The difference in gain available in the JCM800 was striking... the Axe-FX JCM800 has way more gain on tap than the Eleven Rack. I guess this is more true to the original amp?

I also tried the Big Muff into the JTM45's, and found that the Eleven Rack Big Muff again had way more cut, grind, and dynamism.

Finally, I do have to say I think the jet-cockpit UI of the Axe-FX is a bit of a creative impediment to playing guitar. I abhor having to keep a web browser open next to Axe-Edit to cross-reference what knobs and switches I'd be interested in messing with on which models. My immediate take is the Eleven Rack is designed to enable musicians, whereas the Axe-FX is built to the needs of producers and recording engineers.

i made the Larry Carlton preset using the Dumble bright model and my Singtall cabinet (made by Fremen) that tends to work with everything, and the tone is real close. the problem is that Carlton plays with his amp at a fairly loud volume....or at least close enough proximity to get feedback. to get that type of sustain i have to crank the amp up....which stops the nice sensitivity. you have to end up working your guitar volume control to clean it up more.

you can get a tone close to this out of the matchless amp model on the eleven rack....and maybe a little bit more touch sensitivity.

Haha, that is quite a jump from debating about picking up the Logidy EPSi. I have just the EPSi with the 11R and I love it, though I have been tempted to sell it and get an amplifire (or torpedo C.A.B.). The plus for you is that if you end up not liking the AxeFx2 too much you can still sell it and pick up the EPSi and an amplifire and still have money left over..