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#44395 - 08/27/15 05:13 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
Christophersad Offline
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wow i liked amplifire more than axe this time...axe and 11 seem in the ballpark considering cab differences
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#44396 - 08/27/15 06:05 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: Christophersad]
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amaplifire is more raw.

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#44397 - 08/27/15 07:08 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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coin toss on this one in my opinion... they are all different but all sound good to me. amplifire clip sounds a little thin but might work really well in a mix.

thanks for putting together another demo.

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#44398 - 08/27/15 11:14 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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Well, they sounded quite different each from the others, but this time I quite liked all three tones.

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#44399 - 08/27/15 11:37 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: Marc C.]
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Guessing 11R, AxeFX, Amplifire...although really not sure, just though I heard that familiar 11R delay sound on the first one & the second sounded really dynmic yet open like AxeFX should...last one is kinda direct sounding like the Amplifire and the bass boost you mentioned seems to be present. I like that the Amplifire is high passed like the Kemper bc that helps alot when tracking. Always a challenge on 11R without IRs that use high and low pass so you can just use the amps without EQing.
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#44401 - 08/28/15 07:48 AM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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WoW I kinda like them in that order.... the 11r sounds nice and clean (clear, balanced) then the AF sounds a little more mid-rangy (but really good I like it too) and the AX sounds alot mid-rangy (I am surprised that it sounds like this, really don't like it as well)... that's the best I can say for the lack of my ability to explain what I am hearing...
I listened to it 3 times.
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#44403 - 08/28/15 09:07 AM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: jaminjimlp]
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like i said, it was in this order:

1) Eleven Rack
2) AmpliFire
3) Axe-FX II

which one you hear first changes opinions on what people like better.

i thought the 11R and axe-fx II did a better job of emulating the JCM800 power amp sag and compression, the AmpliFire sounded and felt more like just a preamp to me.

all usable tones though.

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#44404 - 08/28/15 06:27 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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Ooops I missed that reveal...Interesting. There was a lot of interesting spikes of rawness in the Amplifire that (I think would be) fun to work with in a mix. 11R & AxeFX are more polished, but this is making me more interested in the Amplifire now.
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#44409 - 08/30/15 11:34 AM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: TLTD]
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TLTD - for the type of tone and feel that you like (smooth) the AmpliFire would be the worst choice. i'm still working on how to get rid of the high end bite that won't go away no matter what IR i use.

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#44410 - 08/30/15 12:55 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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i added some eq's to the AmpliFire and i think i may have found a way to make it do what i want...or least sound closer to the other two units.

clip order:

1) eleven rack
2) AmpliFire
3) Axe-Fx II

https://soundcloud.com/singtall/final-jcm800-test

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