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#44360 - 08/22/15 03:48 PM Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire
singtall Offline
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i made a preset on the axe-fx II using the Friedman BE amp model, then tried to duplicate it using the other two devices. the AmpliFire had the advantage of using the same IR as the axe-fx II. guess which one is which?

the devices are recorded in no particular order...

https://soundcloud.com/singtall/eleven-rack-vs-axe-fx-ii-vs-amplifire

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#44361 - 08/22/15 04:21 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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Heh, they all sound different to me for sure. I'll play though.

1 = AmpliFire
2 = Axe-FX 2
3 = 11R

I have never tried #1 or #2 so its a guess to which is which. While there are differences between 1 & 2, not enough for me to definitively say oh that must be axe... but here's my reasoning...

#1 has a midrange honkiness and almost a real slow low rate chorus-like thing going on to my ears, so that's why I picked #2 as axe-fx.

Your intro sounds best on #1 though.

#3 doesn't really have the vibe of the other two, at least for me...

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#44362 - 08/22/15 05:44 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: noguud]
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you must be listening in mono. one of them has two cabs that are slightly different. in stereo it's just a little wider, in mono it's sounds kinda out of phase or comb filtered. good guesses, but not correct yet. thanks for playing.

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#44363 - 08/22/15 06:18 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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11R preset used for this test:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vm31x2ezb7frhw9/Friedman%20BE%204.tfx?dl=0

it's my forth try at it.

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#44364 - 08/22/15 06:53 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: singtall]
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I was using headphones and it came through in stereo. Reminds me of chorus rate set to zero - it was a trick I remember some guy used on the Digitech GNX series (can't remember the name of those models anymore!) which sounds cool and definitely adds width to the sound, but it's got a sonic thumb print for sure. I wonder if those cab IRs are different distances as well, because one side sounds more "forward" to me.

Anyway preference wise for me, #2 wins on full-on distortion, #1 wins for dynamics during intro. #3 (the 11R I think) just doesn't hang here. Still love my 11R though!!! :-)

Thanks for sharing these demos. Hope you get to do more in the future.

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#44365 - 08/22/15 07:34 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: noguud]
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Axe,amplifire,11r. The 3D seem to have more gain dialed in in the intro,without the same ir i think its difficult to match .
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#44367 - 08/22/15 09:16 PM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: Christophersad]
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My guess

1 - Axe
2 - Amplifire
3 - 11 rack

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#44368 - 08/23/15 09:01 AM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: TheHog107]
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So what are your plans with how you will use the 3 units? Are you keeping the 11R around, or will you thin the herd?

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#44369 - 08/23/15 09:16 AM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: TheHog107]
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I'll go a little different...

1) Axe FX
2) 11R
3) Amplifire

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#44370 - 08/23/15 10:07 AM Re: Eleven Rack vs Axe-FX II vs AmpliFire [Re: Marc C.]
singtall Offline
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some of you might visit other forums and have already seen the answer, so here it is:

1 - Axe
2 - Amplifire
3 - 11 rack

the axe-fx II is my primary rig for recording now. the amplifire was going to be my go-to quick gig rig, but i don't think i'm going to join a band after all at this point....just no time. so i'm not sure of what to do with it. i may use it to double track just for a little different tone. the 11R will remain in the studio since i am still updating the superpack and i use it for a microphone interface.

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