#43332 - 04/01/15 10:53 AM
Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
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Hello! I am new to the group. As I've just purchased an Eleven Rack. It came with PT11 (free upgrade to 12) with ilok. However I am happy with Logic and really don't want to learn another SW. Question I want to ask is; what will I miss if I use 11R without PT11/12? Thanks for looking!
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43336 - 04/01/15 12:50 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Nothing, as far as I am aware! You can download the free 11 Rack Editor if you want and should be good to go. You can sell PT11 if you have not registered it and have some extra cash to feed your GAS habit!
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#43338 - 04/01/15 12:55 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Rushian]
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Also from what I remember Bojan uses Logic X......(?) he may have more info....
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#43340 - 04/01/15 01:01 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Rushian]
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You won't be missing anything by working in Logic, except the input and output names, you have to know what input numbers (like Input 1, Input 2, etc.) correspond to the 11r counterpart (like Guitar Input, Mic Input, Rig output L, etc.). I made a post about the input-output assignments about a month or two back that should apply to your case. Other than that it is like any other interface, just make sure you download all the current Mac drivers and the standalone Eleven Rack Editor to be able to save, load, and adjust presets.
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#43342 - 04/01/15 01:06 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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This is the thread with the Input-Output info, it is for Reaper but also works for Logic. Reaper and Input-Output Assignments You can take it a step further and use Mac's Audio-Midi Setup to create an aggregate device if you have another interface. I have both the 11R and an Apogee Duet 2 and I just leave my 11R hooked up to my FRFR monitor and have all the playback in Logic go through the Duet/studio speakers and my tracking audio go through the FRFR.
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#43349 - 04/01/15 05:20 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Downrazor11]
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Nice one guys! That's a relief @Downrazor11 some great tips there I will get my hands dirty! Next question is where is the best place to sell the unused/unregistered out of the box PT11/12 (download) with ilok & reg card? Any price range ideas?
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43351 - 04/02/15 08:27 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Registered: 02/26/13
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Nice one guys! That's a relief @Downrazor11 some great tips there I will get my hands dirty! Next question is where is the best place to sell the unused/unregistered out of the box PT11/12 (download) with ilok & reg card? Any price range ideas? What do you want for it?
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#43352 - 04/02/15 10:31 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Rob Wots]
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there are some things that you can do in pro tools with the 11R that you can't with other DAW's, just off the top of my head i can think of three. embed settings the eleven rack mini window the 11R templates I think they dropped the mini-window from the PT11 version, now it's covered by the stand-alone editor. Still, it might be nice to embed settings and have templates, but I always build and save my own templates and have never used embed settings so it doesn't impact my workflow, ymmv.
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#43356 - 04/02/15 05:39 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Bob]
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£350 I will be happy! Otherwise it will go to fleebay for £385
Edited by Cem (04/02/15 05:44 PM)
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43357 - 04/02/15 06:17 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Downrazor11]
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there are some things that you can do in pro tools with the 11R that you can't with other DAW's, just off the top of my head i can think of three. embed settings the eleven rack mini window the 11R templates I think they dropped the mini-window from the PT11 version, now it's covered by the stand-alone editor. Still, it might be nice to embed settings and have templates, but I always build and save my own templates and have never used embed settings so it doesn't impact my workflow, ymmv. i'm on PT11 and it has the mini window but i don't know if 12 does. i could live without the mini window tbh. embed settings is one of the those things that now i've had, i'd honestly hate to do without. yes you're right about making templates but it's one of those touches i'd miss. it's the way the eleven as an interface integrates with pro tools that i like, it's all little things like when you click I/O and everything's listed. i know none of it is crucial to making a great track but it just makes it nice to use, it feels like one thing if you know wot i mean?
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#43402 - 04/07/15 09:06 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Bob]
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Nice one guys! That's a relief @Downrazor11 some great tips there I will get my hands dirty! Next question is where is the best place to sell the unused/unregistered out of the box PT11/12 (download) with ilok & reg card? Any price range ideas? What do you want for it? **UPDATE!** CONFIRMED BY EMAIL THAT YOU CAN UPGRADE THIS PT11 TO PT12 FREE OF CHARGE For sale: unused/unregistered 'out of the box' PT11/12 (download required) with ilok & reg card. Looking for £350 delivered. Came with Eleven Rack. I am using Logic so no need for another DAW. Feel free to PM me.
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43405 - 04/08/15 08:27 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Registered: 02/26/13
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Nice one guys! That's a relief @Downrazor11 some great tips there I will get my hands dirty! Next question is where is the best place to sell the unused/unregistered out of the box PT11/12 (download) with ilok & reg card? Any price range ideas? What do you want for it? **UPDATE!** CONFIRMED BY EMAIL THAT YOU CAN UPGRADE THIS PT11 TO PT12 FREE OF CHARGE For sale: unused/unregistered 'out of the box' PT11/12 (download required) with ilok & reg card. Looking for £350 delivered. Came with Eleven Rack. I am using Logic so no need for another DAW. Feel free to PM me. Yes this is an AMNESTY upgrade because it was purchased AFTER 12 was released.
You ARE in fact entitled to Pro Tools 12 BUT you will need to buy a maintenance agreement (support contract Avid calls it) to get any upgrades or feature enhancement releases.
It is kind of a gray area here; While you are entitled to Pro Tools 12, a support contract was not included in the bundle, so if there are any feature releases or upgrades you would have to be on the support contract ($199 annually) in order to receive them.
So your price + $199 = $799 USD
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#43410 - 04/08/15 12:49 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Bob]
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Sorry which part wasn't clear? Upgrade is "FREE OF CHARGE"
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43411 - 04/08/15 12:56 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
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Edited by Cem (04/08/15 03:04 PM)
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43412 - 04/08/15 01:09 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Edited by Cem (04/08/15 03:05 PM)
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43414 - 04/08/15 01:38 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Sorry which part wasn't clear? Upgrade is "FREE OF CHARGE" he goes to the trouble of explaining the situation to you and a smart arsed remark is the thanks he gets?
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#43415 - 04/08/15 01:41 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Rob Wots]
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Sorry which part wasn't clear? Upgrade is "FREE OF CHARGE" he goes to the trouble of explaining the situation to you and a smart arsed remark is the thanks he gets? Yes you right I should appologise! I just a bit frustrated and got it wrong.
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43417 - 04/08/15 02:29 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Bob]
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Appriciate that! Thank you Bob. Do you think the price I am asking is realistic?
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43419 - 04/08/15 03:12 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Bob]
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Thanks for sharing your opinion Bob!
If anyone wants to put an offer feel free to PM me please.
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43420 - 04/08/15 03:24 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Edited by Cem (04/10/15 01:57 AM)
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43429 - 04/09/15 11:38 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Edited by Cem (04/10/15 01:58 AM)
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43431 - 04/09/15 10:36 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43435 - 04/11/15 01:16 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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Bump
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#43448 - 04/12/15 04:14 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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It is on ebay now ending soon! - offers are welcome just PM me! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avid-Pro-Tools...=item25a42aefe7
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#43450 - 04/12/15 04:59 PM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Cem]
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SOLD!
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I have chosen Eleven Rack to improve my oversized pedal board and the Delta Blues 210 to accommodate the following on and off the stage - still working on it... Tele with Hipshot (B&G bender + drop D) Strat with Texas Specials LapSteel Blues Harp Mandolin
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#44140 - 07/18/15 10:01 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Rob Wots]
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Sorry to revive a bit of an old thread, but when I was on PT10, though I didn't use it much, I know I had the 11R mini-window. After upgrading to 11 a couple months ago, I just realized today I lost the min-window and it's not an option on the Edit Window selector. I made sure I have the latest drivers for the 11R. On Mac/Yosemite. Any guidance?
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#44146 - 07/20/15 07:22 AM
Re: Eleven Rack & Pro Tools 11/12
[Re: Oblivion]
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Looks like you will have to use the stand alone editor.
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