I couldn't stop myself....the deal was WAY too good. it included the control 2 pedal and free shipping for less than the cost of a used GSP1101. i missed a few tones that i had, especially the weird atmospheric stuff, plus the ability to load IR's (which i never did back when i had one before).

i'll post some comparisons once i get it in and all setup. i'm sure the eleven rack will feel better thanks to the true-Z input, but having the harmonizer from the GSP1101 will be cool.

stay tuned....

lol damn GAS !!! im very interested in the results loading irs inthe gsp,cause i heard they have to be badly truncated to fit the gsp,keep us informed singtall !

hey Singtall, let me know how you like it. I was on the fence about adding one to the arsenal.

It will be interesting to see how you feel after getting back into the unit. I still have my RP500, and in general I find the 11R more enjoyable to play stand-alone. Sounds more real, more inspiring, all that stuff.
However, recorded with both in a mix (say 11R left, RP500 right, similar tone/gain) the RP seems to dominate and have more balls for lack of a better term. I think it's just a little more compressed and that tends to make it stay out in front better. I'm talking about lower gain stuff similar to REM or southern rock type stuff as well. Just my opinion.
And you can get real nasty tones that I don't think are achievable with the 11R when getting creative with some of the pedal models (gonkulator, etc). Those are fun to play with too.

i spoke to a guy that said i can load the Ownhammer presets directly into the gsp1101 without any modification to the IR, which is great news because you used to have to remove any silence to make it sound right. i don't remember Ownhammer IR's having much if any silence in the front of the Wav file, so i should be good to go.

my memory of the gsp1101 was that it was far more compressed and 2 dimensional when compared to the eleven rack.....but i was using a LOT more gain back then. people that tried my presets actually complained that i needed to back off on the distortion. lol.

I picked one up myself a few months ago. Got it used with the Control 2, a MosValve MV-962 and a 4U Gator rack case shipped for less than a new GSP. Right now I am using just the GSP with my recently acquired Fender Prosonic head and its fantastic. I can flip seamlessly between models and the Prosonic preamp, and I can add tremolo and a noise gate to my physical amp, something the 11R could never do.

The GSP is the clear winner for integrating into a live tube amp rig, but the 11R models are a clear step up in quality

I believe Vinnie Moore used some of those weird atmospheric sounds for faking synths with his guitar on Defying Gravity. I've heard some cool Van Halen covers and guitar instrumentals with it too, very 80s sounding but yeah kinda compressed 2D sounding but not necessarily in a bad way, but always has that color to it and not as dynamic as 11R/Axe Fx. I heard a clip not long ago with some good IRs that made me want to get one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cch5L1ApERo here it is a quick comparsion video between gsp stock and ir

heres a good discussion about the gsp ir truncation to 128/256 point vs the 512 point of the 11r (it seems) vs the 1028/2056 of the axe.
you have to read it all unfortunately...

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1138857&page=2

the IR length effects the low end especially. but since i end up cutting muddy bottom end out of IR's (even on the axe-fx II) it appears that the IR length may not be too big a factor to me.

if you listen to the video's sound, you will hear more beef to the Redwirez IR. i think that's a good thing. more fullness is good. i have a couple Ownhammer IR's that are fairly neutral that get loaded up first thing just to test and see what the truncation will do to the tone.

i think that the best comparison will come when i load an IR in the gsp1101, then a/b it against the same IR loaded into the Epsi.

Yea,interesring comparsion bro,let us know

I am so on the fence about getting one that I am biting my nails waiting to hear some samples...

i just checked the tracking number and it's not scheduled to be here til Friday. crap!

So, had time to play with this yet? Enquiring minds need to know!!

i played with it a little friday night. i am going to play with it some more today before making final judgement on it.

so far, my thoughts based on friday's little play time:

good:

can load Ownhammer IR with no problem.
has many amp models and effects to choose from.
harmonizer tracks well enough to use.

bad:

sounds flat and 2D.
amp models don't act like the real world amp does.
master volume is only a volume control, so no power amp distortion.
the reverb has no real stereo width.
no pre-eq to tweak the front end of an amp, have to use a tube screamer.

i felt like it wasn't fair to compare it to the eleven rack, it's just not a fair competition. for basic tone, the eleven rack wins.

i will compare IR loading against the epsi today and delve into the gsp1101 a little more though.

I thought the C63 firmware had a pre-eq? I thought I had recalled reading that at one time.

i'll check it again, maybe i missed the pre-eq? in any case, it needs one....bad.

i ran a search for gsp1101 pre-eq and it turns out that some dude named "singtall" made use of pre-eq back in the day and posted a ton of presets. lol.

distortion block - peq is where to find it.

i'm still testing, but the pre-eq helps a lot.

i messed around with the gsp1101, Epsi and 11R tonight and came to some conclusions:

if you are used to a guitar rig in the room, the gsp1101 is more up your alley as easier to get that room tone without much eq.

by comparison; the gsp1101 cabs sounded closer to Ownhammer IR's without as much high cut eq.

i took an Ownhammer IR of a Scumback 75 (one of my favs) and loaded it into the gsp1101 and the Espi. i can hear a slight difference in the Epsi, but if i didn't have them side by side i would say the gsp1101's loader was perfect. it's hard to hear the difference in IR length. i can hear it more in the low end, which i roll off anyway. so the gsp1101 IR loader is pretty good.

i tried matching the tone of an Ownhammer IR with each unit using only stock cabs just to see which was easier:

i tried the gsp1101 using it's vintage 30 cab with a post eq BOOSTING high mids at about 4khz while cutting a little low mids at 560hz and it was pretty close.

the 11R with vintage 30 (4-12") using U87 off axis was the closest match, but much brighter and harsher than the gsp1101. adding an eq helped get it closer.

overall:

the gsp1101 stock cabs are warmer and closer to Ownhammer, but still benefited from a little eq boost.

the 11R stock cabs were brittle as hell by comparison and needed much high end roll off to get close. only a couple mic positions were acceptable (but still needed a little roll off).

amp model feel:

once the cabinet tone was right, they both provided plenty of good tone and feel. guitar volume roll off to clean was easy to achieve on each unit depending on which amp model chosen (marshall types were easier).

the gsp1101 DOES NOT model poweramp distortion at all. the amp level is nothing more than a volume control. the 11R rack DOES model poweramp distortion on par with the axe-fx II. so if power amp distortion makes a difference to you, the 11R is the clear winner. if you used a rack back in the day, then the gsp1101 is better than most everything we had back then. it's all preamp distortion, but so was everything in our racks. many of us never heard an amp fully cranked nor owned a power brake to safely turn our 100watt head full blast, so poweramp distortion wasn't a factor. i use it now, but i can't say it's the deal breaker.

something to consider......you could buy a gsp1101 used for a little more than the Epsi, and you would gain more amp models, effects and an IR loader, plus midi and the ability to change IR's with the presets. for me, it's a win. i can use it by itself or with the 11R.

it may be awhile before i consider doing a superpack for the gsp1101 though. you knows? if the demand was there i guess.

i will try to get some clips made this week. i will do some blind tests to see if anyone can identify which unit they are hearing. should be interesting.

If it was from Singtall then it is MONEY!!!

LOL... that is funny. Regardless - good that it is there and useful! =)

the hard part about testing modelers is finding something to reference the tone to. you can dial up just about anything you want on any device if you have the know how and time, but you have to have a tone in mind that you are trying to get.

i normally start by trying to get the same tone as my amp in the room. it's much easier to get there with the gsp1101 (from a basic warm eq stand point).

when i'm trying to get an artist's tone the all bets are off. i normally start with a preset that i already have that's close, then tweak from there. it took me a long time to get used to the sheer amount of highs the eleven rack has by default.