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#39038 - 04/11/14 12:05 PM OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps...
Yellowdawg Offline
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...one set for cleaner tones, the other set for dirtier tones, what would be the best way to accomplish this?

Using a regular amp splitter won't work, because those split the signal from the guitar and route it to two different paths...and with the 11R having one main in, I don't see that working.

Essentially, I guess what I am wanting to accomplish is to choose the path out of the 11R to either be separated to one of two amps, or to go to both at once (when chosen).

Thoughts?

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#39040 - 04/11/14 02:23 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: Yellowdawg]
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If you use the Output To Amp 1 & 2 1/4" outputs you could accomplish this.

Each preset allows you to have an independent output level for each Output To Amp, including MUTE. You could put a different amp on each output. You could use the MUTE for the presets you don't want going to particular amp. You set the output level the same to balance it to each amp - or you can mix 'n' match the output levels to create whatever blend you desire.

I suspect there are other options - but that is one.
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#39041 - 04/11/14 02:30 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: dmock66]
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OK...so to make sure I am clear on what you are saying...you can assign in the 11R which 'output to amp' is activated on each preset?

For instance, all of my clean settings could be assigned 'output to amp 1', and then the dirtier settings to 'output to amp 2'...and for more hybrid tones, use both?

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#39044 - 04/11/14 02:51 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: Yellowdawg]
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Absolutely

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#39046 - 04/11/14 03:11 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: DonaldR]
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Yup. I have the main screen showing the preset name and the output levels across the bottom. That's a quick and easy place to see how they're all set.

You could have the clean amp on Output To Amp 1 and the dirty amp on Output To Amp 2. You control, per preset, how much, if any, goes to each.
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#39048 - 04/11/14 03:36 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: dmock66]
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Holy moly...that's TOO easy. laugh

How cool is that????

Now you say 'main screen'...you talking about on the 11R itself or the computer?


Edited by Yellowdawg (04/11/14 03:37 PM)

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#39051 - 04/11/14 07:32 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: Yellowdawg]
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The screen on the 11R.

It should be slick.
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#39052 - 04/11/14 07:45 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: dmock66]
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This is absolutely the coolest. Thanks!!!!

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#39071 - 04/14/14 07:23 AM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: Yellowdawg]
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I'm not where my 11R is for another week or I'd try this myself. Does all of this apply to only the Amp Outs, or is it possible to split the signal via USB going into Pro Tools using two mono tracks in Pro Tools to monitor/record the output?

Another question to that end - is it only the preamps that can be assigned to separate outs, or are any other components in the Rig available?

I'm not wishing for my vacation to end, but have to admit to being rather anxious now to get home and check this out. My other electronic guitar toy is due a software upgrade this week. smile

I just had another thought. If it is only available with the Amp Outs, I wonder if I could run them back through the 11R's Line In ports and pick them up from inside Pro Tools using the Line In channels as the track input instead of the 11R Rigs. Hmmmm

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#39073 - 04/14/14 12:16 PM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: PatriotsBuker]
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You can't assign separate preamps to the different Output To Amps - you can control the output level of the preset by the Output To Amp outputs. Output To Amp 1 has an independent level, as does Output To Amp 2.

I understood the original post to be asking if they could run their clean presets to one amp and the gain presets to a different amp. The Output To Amp 1 and 2 allows THAT to be done. You cannot have two different amp models in one preset regardless of the output levels of the outputs.
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#39105 - 04/16/14 05:41 AM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: dmock66]
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Thanks for the clarification. I continue to misread something above. I'm sure it will make sense when I got back and look.

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#39107 - 04/16/14 08:19 AM Re: OK...if I want to split the output of the 11R to two amps... [Re: PatriotsBuker]
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The way I read the OP was that they have two different amps they want to use with the 11R. In my head they have a Fender amp and a Marshall amp (because that's what I think of when I think clean and gain). My interpretation was that they wanted their clean presets to go to the Fender amp and the gain presets to go to the Marshall amp.

My solution is run Output To Amp 1 to the Fender and Output To Amp 2 to the Marshall (regardless of whether you run to the Effects Return of the amp or to the input).

On your clean presets you set the Output To Amp 1 level at whatever your desired output is and have Output To Amp 2 on MUTE. You do the opposite for the gain presets.

If you want to get completely crazy you can also blend the two. =)

I don't know if that was the actual intent of the thread to begin with, but that was how I interpreted it and what my response was based on.

That said - it's entirely possible I missed the boat completely! :-)
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