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#33860 - 07/20/13 10:41 PM What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp?
jaminjimlp Offline
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I need a really good recording mike but don't want to spend a fortune.....

Also is the 11r [I have read some posts on here that say the 11r mike pre is not real good] able to replace a high end mike preamp??? [may be a job for singtall]. In the 11r factory settings there is a "vocal" preset, now I haven't tried it out and I'm not real well versed in making vocal recordings and using preamps so what may sound good to me may not be "real good"...


I noticed that when I plugged up all my stuff to my "br1600cd" [because I had returned my sx2442fx beringer mixer on the pro coverage and needed to have practice] the mike had a very warm sound and I was thinking man that sounds so good!!!......

alright now its time to let you recording guru's tell whats up... even if your just starting I want your opinion. please if you can post a link to your sugestion that would be awesome...


Edited by jaminjimlp (07/20/13 10:42 PM)
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#33861 - 07/20/13 11:08 PM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: jaminjimlp]
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check out Carvin products and their factory direct prices are very reasonable.
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#33872 - 07/21/13 11:02 PM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: Gary88]
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this one looks pretty intresting.....

ctm100


Originally Posted By: Gary88
check out Carvin products and their factory direct prices are very reasonable.
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#33876 - 07/22/13 08:04 AM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: jaminjimlp]
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Well what do you want to record? Vocals, guitars, drums? What type of mic do you have in mind? Condenser, dynamic, ribbon?

I know you were talking about the vocal preset, so should we assume vocal?

What kind of price range are you looking at? You can go to somewhere like Sweetwater and search in a specific price range.

The mic pre in the 11R is certainly not stellar, but it ain't all that bad either. Some pres can be noisy as a farrowing house, but the factory 11R is quiet and very neutral, in my opinion.

Yes, you can run it through a rig and color it any way you want to or not and process it in your DAW. Your choice there.

I use my 11R in combination with with my 003R + (8 mic pres). But, when I have used my 11R alone as the only interface to Protools, I have a fairly inexpensive 2 channel mic pre that I like and use on the line ins, as well as the factory pre.

I have recorded acoustic guitar with my 2 channel mic pre, set very transparent, and using certain micing techniques, get good sounding stereo audio. I will also use the pup on the acoustic guitar and go into the 11R DRY and mix all three together.

As for the mic, MY vocals come across best with a dynamic mic. I use a very old (1970 vintage) Shure Unisphere. On other vocals I have a variety of mics ranging from inexpensive MXL, and AKG to medium priced Rodes.

A microphone, just like a mic pre can color what it sends to the track, so I usually advise to get something that colors the LEAST. You can usually add additional color with FX.

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#33877 - 07/22/13 09:31 AM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: Bob]
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I can recommend this. I personally love it and it has great reviews. You could probably shop around for a better price.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MA200/

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#33879 - 07/22/13 09:50 AM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: Bob]
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very interesting stuff there..... to answer your question... mainly vocals, maybe an acoustic guitar. I would like to stay around the $200 mark

how about these:MXLor MXL


Originally Posted By: Bob
Well what do you want to record? Vocals, guitars, drums? What type of mic do you have in mind? Condenser, dynamic, ribbon?

I know you were talking about the vocal preset, so should we assume vocal?

What kind of price range are you looking at? You can go to somewhere like Sweetwater and search in a specific price range.

The mic pre in the 11R is certainly not stellar, but it ain't all that bad either. Some pres can be noisy as a farrowing house, but the factory 11R is quiet and very neutral, in my opinion.

Yes, you can run it through a rig and color it any way you want to or not and process it in your DAW. Your choice there.

I use my 11R in combination with with my 003R + (8 mic pres). But, when I have used my 11R alone as the only interface to Protools, I have a fairly inexpensive 2 channel mic pre that I like and use on the line ins, as well as the factory pre.

I have recorded acoustic guitar with my 2 channel mic pre, set very transparent, and using certain micing techniques, get good sounding stereo audio. I will also use the pup on the acoustic guitar and go into the 11R DRY and mix all three together.

As for the mic, MY vocals come across best with a dynamic mic. I use a very old (1970 vintage) Shure Unisphere. On other vocals I have a variety of mics ranging from inexpensive MXL, and AKG to medium priced Rodes.

A microphone, just like a mic pre can color what it sends to the track, so I usually advise to get something that colors the LEAST. You can usually add additional color with FX.
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#33880 - 07/22/13 10:42 AM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: jaminjimlp]
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If your budget will allow it...this is widely considered one of the best vocal mic's ever, but sweet baby jesus it cost some $$$...

Neumann U87

For something more down to earth, this is a great mic too...

Sennheiser MD 421

And I have heard good reviews on this one...

Beyerdynamic M 201

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Edited by mikefont (07/22/13 10:43 AM)
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#33881 - 07/22/13 11:05 AM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: mikefont]
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#33889 - 07/22/13 08:03 PM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: aussiebail]
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Solid product, killer warranty.

http://www.rodemic.com/mics/nt1-a

These run in the $200-250 price range. If that's more than you want to spend their lower end M3 is also a very nice and versatile mic.

http://www.rodemic.com/mics/m3



Edited by Hellbat (07/22/13 08:09 PM)

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#33899 - 07/23/13 08:01 AM Re: What mike should I get and can 11r replace a tube type preamp? [Re: jaminjimlp]
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Originally Posted By: jaminjimlp
very interesting stuff there..... to answer your question... mainly vocals, maybe an acoustic guitar. I would like to stay around the $200 mark

how about these:MXLor MXL



Yes, I have gotten very good results from both of those mic packages. In fact I have 2 of the 990/991 packages and I use the 991s as a stereo pair in overheads.

Now understand that these mics are NOT gonna sound like a Telefunken or Neumann but with care and proper mic techniques, they can get you some very good results.

You won't get hurt at the price, believe me.

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