Third Party IR & Post 11R Cab Effects

Hi, if I use the Eleven Rack with a third party IR (bypass 11R Cab) in Pro Tools, does it mean that I can't use any 11R effects post cab? Say if I use turn on 11R's delay and reverb, the signal chain would be guitar->overdrive->amp->delay->reverb->3rd Party IR plugin, which is not ideal.

Anyway to achieve the following:
guitar->overdrive->amp->3rd Party IR plugin->11R delay->11R reverb?

An EPSI in the FX loop.... Singtall is selling his.

Also on this, it's actually better to just use the cabinet last so you wont miss anything by doing it in Pro Tools, except the CPU hit and latency might be an issue that way.

TLTD: DO you meant guitar->overdrive->amp->11R delay->11R reverb->3rd Party IR plugin?

Jaminjimlp: I tried to do everything in Pro Tools, may not need the EPSI at this stage since I am not using it live. Also at the moment, I find the 11R stock cab works better with 11R compared to 3rd party IR especially in the area of feel and palm muting.

Have you tried OwnHammer or RedWirez IRs, they are fantastic. Much better than the stock ones in the 11R. I haven't used those in a long time.

Yup, just move the FX block last if you're loading cabinets with a Logidy EPSi, or if you're in Pro Tools just run everything into your IR loader. It gets rid of the digital artifacts and makes everything sound better that way & every impulse will give your preset a different color.

Sometimes it helps the feel a lot, which is why I decided that was the best way, initially. You can lose the feel with too much going on after the cabinet.

TLTD, when you said "if you're in Pro Tools just run everything into your IR loader", you are referring to the following?

Guitar->11R overdrive->11R amp->11R delay->11R reverb, then I run Pro Tools, insert MixIR2 as plugin to load 3rd party IR. FYI, MixIR2 is the only insert i run in Pro Tools. Hence, MixIR2 is sitting in the last signal chain, and 11R delay and 11R Reverb are sitting between the amp and mixIR2.

I am trying to mimic the real world setup where delay and reverb pedals usually sit in the effects loop of the amp.

TheHog107, I am going to try Ownhammer V3 Mix Mesa soon

Yes. That way it's much like a real rig where you'd usually just have your entire rack running through your cabinet.

http://www.ownhammer.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=104

My recommendation...After trying SO many cabinet packs and things, this is still THE BEST, especially the V30 and Scumback speaker cabinets. They're just so perfect with Eleven Rack.

Check your private messages, sent you some stuff...

I can definitely defintely vouch for epsi/ownhammer scumback IRs. Tranformed my 11rs sound.