G`Day guys, I voted "I AGREE" a while ago. Pro Tools is great for recording ect, But if you only want to check out a few patches as Str@man said it`s a pain in the rear waiting for it to boot. I now know why my power bills have gone through the roof!!

Hey Y'all,

I just wanted to say thanks for voting on this; I just checked and the vote total has risen to 161 so there are still votes being cast for it and you guys have moved it from #43 in rank up to #40

Thanks again Brothers (and maybe Sisters... do we have any on the list????).

Str@man,

I think that Digidesign will be very reluctant to unbundle the 11R editor from Protools. From their perspective they want everyone on the planet to use Protools. You can't blame them. It is their flagship brand product and is where they make their bread and butter. Making a stand-alone editor will free many of us up to use other recording products. From the Digi outlook, the 11R is primarily a fancy protools interface, not necessarily a top-shelf stand-alone modeler. Have you noticed the lack of advertising/promotion for the 11R? The lack of big name guitarist endorsees? The Axe FX is advertising in every guitar magazine and has an army of top guitar players drooling over it in promos. Digi hasn't done anything like that to promote the 11R, which is a shame because I think the 11R can hold it's own against the AxeFx is many ways, but at a much more reasonable price.

Although I would love to see the editor untethered from Protools as muc as the next guy, realistically I would be shocked if they did.

We can always hope,though. Maybe they will read our threads and crank up the advertising engine to let more people know about the 11R.

Wow, I got a little light-headed from standing on that soapbox for too long...

Peace

Soap on brother, soap on

I think you make some very good points man, and I like hearing other
perspectives because many times I learn things that I hadn't considered
before, and this is one of those times

Thanx for the input my friend!

just wondering whether the communication protocol can be reverse engineered?... sniff the USB buss during communication and other remote parameter setting to see what it might be... just a thought?

Hey fayser1,

That IS a cool idea, but I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to do such a thing.

Do we have any in-house geniuses that knows how to do such a thing???

Hi no genius here i'm afraid!
Hi everyone!! (newbie ER forummer)

I think it's more likely AVID will jettison the ER
and its developers if it can't find a way of integrating this great device
into its future products! The ER was Digidesign's baby.

Alternatively we may see a 'purple and black'
version soon with expanded goodies both physical
and virtual, or they follow Line6 and build the guitar/bass/vox DSP
into the next mbox range or offer it as an expansion

Maybe AxeFx will snap it up....

cheers
Neilmac

Re genius- what does advanced user TLTD have to say on this?

Also surely the guys at Eureka Sound would have some idea
if a standalone app is possible- they are doing great things
with the 11PROM for the Behringer FCB 1010 pedal

cheers

Well, lol...I am rated "Advanced" merely by posting on this board so much but have been thinking it's MIDI controllable so just create a little program that works with MIDI like the cheesy Eventide Libfactor I think it's called and either live with text or even screen shot it so it looks like the interface. You might have to convert the presets to open them, but I think they are based on universal SysEx or whatever.

The only thing I think that is doable, and I'm not sure how exactly but at the school you can log into a special profile on the computer for Pro Tools that is optimized which would save some time. I've been wondering if you can just make Pro Tools load on startup then it's there by the time you get out your guitar. I know that once I load Pro Tools/quit and then load it up again it's pretty fast so to get that initial first load time out of the way would be nice.

I just did a restore to a time when I just had Pro Tools installed and it's a little better. With all my video programs it took like 5 minutes, was really annoying. Because it's Avid it wants to try to work together with Media Composer and Adobe CS5 or something. But I need to he programs back on so would REALLY love the standalone to happen even in a crappy little minesweeper looking window. I hardly use Pro Tools for tracking any more, just to mix assignments that we have to turn in the Pro Tools project.

Well now I am depressed... but thanks for the reality check, Berklee.